Wishes

Finale night is on 11/8, right? The only way to get to down to the number is with 2 double evictions. Cory and America were counting it out and came up with the same situation. If they do have a special eviction or something, that would cancel one of the double evictions, but there is no way they would just completely cancel having any double evictions, especially with this group of flip-flopping bullshit. They won't know which end is up!

Finale is 11/9 After tonight we will be down to 12 people. Here is the breakdown with ALL single evictions

9/7 - 12 left
9/14 - 11 left (jury begins)
9/21 - 10 left
9/28 - 9 left
10/5 - 8 left
10/12 - 7 left
10/19 - 6 left
10/26 - 5 left
11/2 - 4 left
Sunday or Monday "special eviction" - 3 left
11/9 finale night - Final juror evicted to be at final 2

If you have a timestamp of the Cory/America discussion, I'd love to have a look at it. Might even be able to post a video of it here

Strange that they are having finale on a Thursday instead of a Wednesday like usual. I looked at my math again and I only had 1 double eviction in there, so I correct myself there. However, I came down to the same number as you did with 4 on 11/2. I didn't count a special eviction happening that last week because I don't recall them doing an extra eviction over the weekend leading up to the finale.

If they have an eviction on 11/2 to bring it to 4. They would have to do that special eviction at some point over that weekend, plus kickoff the special 3-part final HOH. There isn't enough time for that. Unless of course you didn't mean that the special eviction would actually happen on that last weekend, which means our math comes out the same with mine counting a double eviction and yours having a special eviction.

Having a double eviction when they are around the 10 people mark, would bring it down to where there are 3 people left after the eviction on 11/2. Part 1 of HOH starts that night, part 2 over the weekend. Then the final 1 on finale night as usual.

As far as the conversation with America and Cory, I don't remember when they were talking about it. It was sometime over the past week, but I stumbled across it since it was not mentioned on the updates anywhere to search it out. But their math was off because they also said 2 double eviction just as I did at first when I posted it. My problem was not reading my own writing correctly, theirs is doing it in their head without paper!

The Thursday finale is due to the fact that Survivor is on Wednesdays so that's why it is changed up there. Look for the entire schedule to change once Survivor starts in a few weeks. Sunday show moves to 10:00/10:30 depending on football. Wednesday show moves to Tuesday and Thursday show moves to 8:00.

Anyhow, back to the topic at hand. The special eviction is usually on the Sunday episode and is a taped eviction and not live, so what happens on that episode is usually the eviction to get down to the 3, and the start of the first part of the 3 part HoH. This special thing is what messes up my count each year because they always slightly change it up, but this is how they've done it the past couple years.

Well, I just don't buy it that they won't have AT LEAST one double eviction. It is an iconic thing and this being BB25 they are even more apt to do it. So, I guess if they are going to have that Sunday special eviction things you are talking about, then they will HAVE to have at least 1 battleback in order to make a double eviction possible.

I think it would be a huge mistake not to have one either. But let's face it, with the excpetion of Michael being evicted, they've been pretty bland as of late, but this year could be epic with all the flip flops and them not having time for it

Here's a couple of them I have been musing about.

Izzy is voted out by a vote of 5-4 in a total blindside to Jared, Blue, Cirie and Cory (although Cory has an idea it could be happening but stays with this vote anyway). The HOH comp is a wall comp of sorts and Jared is FIRED up for it and pissed about the vote. Jared is only able to outlast Felicia and Cirie and is REALLY pissed off and pouting. Cirie is of course "very disappointed" that Jared wasn't able to pull it off.

America wins the wall comp and Jared is LIVID and SCARED at the same time. Her noms are Jared and Cirie and tells them it is her backdoor plan for Cam. Veto is not used and Cirie tries to fall on the sword to save Jared, but in classic BB play (this would be a STRETCH for this cast), Jared is sent packing instead because he is the bigger threat.

OR:

Izzy stays. The rest is the same with the wall comp and Jared being out early and doing horrible just like the pressure cooker. America wins HOH. She puts up Izzy and Jared using the rationale that it will cover the physical and mental aspects of the veto and they can backdoor Cam. Veto is not used and the campaigning gets ugly.

After Cam's eviction, I don't care who wins HoH as long as it's not Cirie/Blue. Cirie and Jared get nominated and Jared wins veto to save himself. They think they are good but Cirie gets voted out. The next HoH is then won by anyone but Blue/Jared and the two of them find themselves on the block together, neither wins veto and noms stay the same. We get a full week of Jared on the block without the help of Cirie and he finally gets voted out.

ctown28 wrote:

After Cam's eviction, I don't care who wins HoH as long as it's not Cirie/Blue.  Cirie and Jared get nominated and Jared wins veto to save himself.  They think they are good but Cirie gets voted out.  The next HoH is then won by anyone but Blue/Jared and the two of them find themselves on the block together, neither wins veto and noms stay the same.  We get a full week of Jared on the block without the help of Cirie and he finally gets voted out.

This wish assumes there is a battle back immediately following the eviction tonight:

Julie tells the hg's tonight is a double eviction, but makes NO MENTION about this cryptic message and the possibility of a battle back happening until AFTER the second eviction. No heads up because it could change what people intend to do.

Cam is evicted with a unanimous vote.

America wins HOH (before/after or T/F on house events). She puts up Jared and Cirie. Veto is the "clown shoe" comp and Matt wins it and refuses to use it. Cirie asks everyone to vote her out instead of Jared, but people vote out Jared anyway.

Julie announces the battle back and they watch it on the monitor. Cam wins the battle back and comes back into the house. Cirie immediately tries to link up with him and he plays along for a bit, but then burns her ass at the noms because of her part in blowing up him and Red on a personal level.

Oh, one more thing. When the dust settles Cirie goes to Matt to ask why he didn't have their back and he tells her he can't play the game with someone who would use his disability as an excuse to cover up for his own lies and he has found out she has been lying to him as well after he trusted her 100%.

Well at least I got Matt winning the veto and Jared being evicted parts of my wish granted. That is better than usual!

So there will be 3 comps and then a final comp to determine who gets to decide to try a puzzle. (It has to be 3 before the final, can't do 4 s then there could be a tie).

We get to the final comp where they each have 1 win each and BB decides that the final comp is going to be questions about Ciries 4 seasons on Survivor since that has been a part of this years twist and they all know she was on Survivor. Jared is immediately excited and Cirie is licking her chops. Social media blows up about how fixed this game is and Cam never had a chance. But lo and behold, Cam smokes Jared in the comp all about his Mom, then decides to do the puzzle himself and wins his way back into the game

ctown28 wrote:

So there will be 3 comps and then a final comp to determine who gets to decide to try a puzzle. (It has to be 3 before the final, can't do 4 s then there could be a tie).

We get to the final comp where they each have 1 win each and BB decides that the final comp is going to be questions about Ciries 4 seasons on Survivor since that has been a part of this years twist and they all know she was on Survivor.  Jared is immediately excited and Cirie is licking her chops.  Social media blows up about how fixed this game is and Cam never had a chance.  But lo and behold, Cam smokes Jared in the comp all about his Mom, then decides to do the puzzle himself and wins his way back into the game

Well duh, I didn't think about it having to be 3 comps or they could tie, my bad!

The irony here is truly that it is actually plausible that Jared would lose a comp like this because he doesn't pay attention to the details, but yet thinks he knows EVERYTHING just because he is just that smart!

ok, this is going to be very unpopular

This season has yet to see a clean HoH. They have all been sloppy with the amount of flips and what not, so why stop that train now.

Blue for HoH. I can just imagine the clusterfuck and arrogance she would have even after the veto meeting when her power is gone. It could provide some very dramatic feeds.

ctown28 wrote:

ok, this is going to be very unpopular

This season has yet to see a clean HoH.  They have all been sloppy with the amount of flips and what not, so why stop that train now.

Blue for HoH.  I can just imagine the clusterfuck and arrogance she would have even after the veto meeting when her power is gone.  It could provide some very dramatic feeds.

Well I agree it would be very unpopular with me unless......................it blows up in her face and she has to settle for sending Felicia out of the house instead of Cory, America or Cam. Listening to drone on about how great her game is and saying "GIRRRRLLL" to everyone would be more than I can stand.

Well the blowing up in her face is a given, I guess I should have clarified that

The way this season has played out and all the horrible gameplay, this season deserves the worst Final 3 since season 15 when we had GinaMarie, Andy and Spenser.

So here's to hoping that for this season, Bowie turns things up to win comps and we get down to a final 3 of Bowie, Felicia and Cirie. The season deserves such a horrible finish

ctown28 wrote:

The way this season has played out and all the horrible gameplay, this season deserves the worst Final 3 since season 15 when we had GinaMarie, Andy and Spenser.

So here's to hoping that for this season, Bowie turns things up to win comps and we get down to a final 3 of Bowie, Felicia and Cirie.  The season deserves such a horrible finish

I agree that would be a terrible final 3, but you have to admit Bowie would be much smarter to take those 2 to the final 3 rather than going with Matt and Jag, right? And if she won the comps to evict the other 2 and take those ladies to the end, then she would deserve to win.

Nah. I'm gonna take it a step further. Felcia or Cirie win final HoH on the questions and takes the other with the two of them being the final 2

ctown28 wrote:

Nah.  I'm gonna take it a step further.  Felcia or Cirie win final HoH on the questions and takes the other with the two of them being the final 2

And yes that would be a horrible final 2 as well, but one could say they won when they needed to in order to get to the final 2 chairs and would therefore deserve to win. Unlike someone like a Victoria who was dragged all the way through the game and was chosen by the HOH winner to sit next to them.

Yes, but they would be on an even playing field. It's not always about comp wins. Social game and jury management would be key here and I think it would be pretty even. Sure, Felicia is annoying as fuck, but she talks to people a lot more, whereas Cirie mostly keeps to herself, not to mention the using social game to survive the block how many times

My point is that even the worst player who wins their way to the end could be looked at differently at that point than it would be thinking of that scenario now. For example if Cody had chosen Victoria to sit next to would have been a smart play by people like you and I because you are supposed to line it up game to game and choose. But there are those in that jury who said after season was over that they would NOT have voted for Cody if he took the easy way out and chose Victoria. He would have still won, but the fact that it wouldn't have been unanimous is ridiculous. That is the unpredictability of the jury sometimes.

But in this season if Cirie and Felicia started winning HOH's and vetoes to keep themselves safe and make it to the end at this point without being dragged, I would grudgingly say (choking on the words) they deserved to be there. Would it still be a horrible ending, yes, but you can't deny they would deserve to be there based on where things are right now.

If there is a physical aspect to the HOH tonight, I hope Matt pulls it out and puts up Blue and America. Excuse to Blue is that he doesn't want her to pull America off the block because they have been together, not together for the entire game. America wins veto takes herself down and Felicia goes up. Excuse is that if he puts up Bowie, she might go home and he has to make sure one of his targets goes home and doesn't want Blue and America joining together to go after him. Or even tell Felicia he knows she has been talking about moving to an all girls things and that scares him. Blue walks out the door.

If it is more of a mental thing without a physical aspect to it, I would like to see America pull it out. I don't think she will go right at Matt and Jag, I think she will try to show Matt/Jag that she wants to try to repair their relationship a bit to keep herself safe for a little while longer and put up Blue and Felicia. But if veto works in her favor (Matt, Jag or Bowie don't win), she will go for the backdoor of Jag.

This puts Cirie in a pickle because she is supposed to have a final 4 with Matt, Jag, Bowie and herself. That would leave 3 votes from their group to keep Jag. If she goes against it, she loses Matt and he WILL take her out instead of worrying about targets or anything else next week. If she goes the other way, she loses Blue and Felicia (one by eviction and the other by backstabbing them on the vote). Ultimately Blue or Felicia either one leaving next week would be okay with me.