Rubina

OK, get this woman the hell out of the house. She is the perfect example of why not to believe any of the initail videos. She was the one talking about how she may be small, but she will not put up with anything and will let people know when she is pissed, blah blah blah. She has zero impact on the game and is so very easily manipulated. She wants to hang out with Tucker and it's obvious she's into him, but has been holding back because she doesn't want to piss off T'kor. It's no secret that I don't like showmances, but on that same note, don't allow me or anyone else to make that decision for you

She is pretty smart about nuances in the game, seeing when people are talking and knowing when she needs to stroke someone to get off their radar. She is almost like a therapist, but I guess being a bartender gives her a good chance to practice that "mirroring" crap they use in therapy because she does that a lot. She also makes sure the person she is talking to feels heard, etc. But let's be real, she isn't going to step up and put ANYONE in the place or she would have done it by now. She is a fucking mouse with a decent brain. That being said, her infatuation with Tucker clouds her judgement a lot. She has what appears to be a solid thing with T'kor, Brooklyn and Chelsie (all separately) but it keeps her off the radar for the most part.

She will end up being a casualty of Tucker I have a feeling and that possibility becomes more likely the longer he is in the house.

I agree with most, but her thing with Chelsie may be the most genuine. T'kor and Brooklyn seem to have agendas that Rubina is simply a pawn in and she is expendable to them. Chelsie at least seems to be able to be more objective and may see the light on things without the tunnel vision of he other two. T'kor has her men are assholes, POC has to win type of thing and I think Brooklyn has her blind loyalty to the pentagon/collective because she seems like the kind of person that would rahter go down with the ship than admit to being fooled

ctown28 wrote:

I agree with most, but her thing with Chelsie may be the most genuine.  T'kor and Brooklyn seem to have agendas that Rubina is simply a pawn in and she is expendable to them.  Chelsie at least seems to be able to be more objective and may see the light on things without the tunnel vision of he other two.  T'kor has her men are assholes, POC has to win type of thing and I think Brooklyn has her blind loyalty to the pentagon/collective because she seems like the kind of person that would rahter go down with the ship than admit to being fooled

I agree 100% with your take on T'kor. She WANTS to be aligned with women and wants a woman to win, with even higher points if the woman is a POC. She wants to be carried to the end and do nothing to win the game PERIOD.

Chelsie also is more objective than some, but I actually think Chelsie and Brooklyn are a bit closer than Rubina is with either of them. Remember that Brooklyn also has a F2 with Tucker that she checked in on in the last day or so. Also did you see her reaction when Tucker won the AI arena? She was the first one to hug him and there was genuine happiness for him, which I thought was weird at the time. But then I heard about this new alliance that includes T'kor, Kimo, Tucker, Brooklyn and I think Rubina, but Chelsie is on the perimeter. It is called the 5 point group. I'm guessing that was to keep the Pentagon and this one kind of close in name in case there is a slip and someone can say well a 5 point thing is a Pentagon, but that is my opinion.

Brooklyn joked to Rubina and Chelsie separately the other day that she has "played (the new word for lying) at least half the house now" and they thought that was hilarious.

The 5 point group has been exposed by their members before it even had a chance. I think it's even in the3 tidbits thread for the morning things you need to know thing.

Brooklyn can be somewhat dangerous while being useless. I think shes a lock to get to the jury house and I am not convinced yet that she can't win a comp. She was someone I wanted to like, but her allegiance to Quinn pisses me off and I think she has an ulterior motive on it.

Ooooh, conspiracy theory alert. She's manipulating production and pretending to do what they want but in reality she's manipulating them!

So, I thought I might have missed something in the tidbits, but the only it says is the alliance was formed, not that it blew up. It does say "show more" at the bottom, but it doesn't open anything, so I guess that was on me.

What is weird is that I still seem Kimo and T'kor talking about it like it is still going, so maybe some members don't know it over? Tucker even told someone yesterday (I don't remember who it was) that he doesn't want to add anyone else to the 5 point group at all, so obviously he doesn't know it is over either.

Apparently Rubina went to the SR to congratulate Tucker on his veto win and I think she wanted more celebration than he was ready for, but he told her they would get their alone time in the HOH.

A little later Rubina asked T'kor if she was upset with her because she ran and hugged Tucker when it was announced he won the veto and T'kor said she wasn't. First of all T'kor has the tightest "showmance" in the house with T'kor, so she shouldn't be talking about people needing to be broken up. Secondly, why does Rubina care if T'kor likes it or not? She is a grown woman and can make her own damn choices. Tucker wouldn't be giving T'kor and Kimo the time of day without Rubina, so she should just keep her fucking mouth shut.

Rubina started "campaigning" today to see where the votes stand for her if she doesn't win the AI arena. Brooklyn told her that she is only worried for Rubina if she is on the block against Cedric. She has supposedly been "working" with Chelsie and Brooklyn throughout the game "having each other's back" but even this early Brooklyn basically told her she doesn't have her vote unless she is against MJ? I realize she can't really push it because she has to kind of play nice right now, but she should share with her 5 Pointz group that it is obvious that Brooklyn isn't with them and adding Chelsie (they were entertaining that for a little bit) would be useless to them. That is when T'kor, Kimo and Tucker need to start working for her and at least putting Brooklyn on the spot about her vote. Kind of "either you are with us or against us." These people make it too easy for people to just run roughshod over them. Hell at the very least plant a few seeds here and there!

It seems to me that Rubina is afraid of confrontation and that is what has prevented her from actually playing the game. We should've seen it coming from the point in her initial interview where she talking about how vocal she would be and how in your face she while being so small in stature.

I still find it funny that there is a very good possibility that she will go home with such a powerful advantage being played this week. Out of the entire cast, Rubina poses the least threat. It would be a no brainer for me to send Cedric or MJ packing.

Now watch, here I am bashing how useless she is, so look for her to crush AI arena and leave the vote to MJ/Cedric

She makes reference to "that side of her" but I haven't seen ANY evidence of it being real. I think she is in bartender/therapist mode MOST of the time. Another reason I would like to see her go is because she is one of several people who want to award the money to someone in the house who "deserves" to win. She thinks a person's story is more important than anything else and she is NOT alone. This is what T'kor and Kimo think as well. Of course for T'kor they also have to be female and POC is a big plus, but they have to be "good people" who deserve and need the money. I hate people who disrespect the game with this kind of crap.

There have been several winners in BB history that I absolutely could not stand, but was able to say they should have won because of the game they played. Bias does come into play, it is human nature, but to completely dismiss the strategy, smart moves, winning comps, etc., is just a slap in the face to people who respect the game.

chap5788 wrote:

There have been several winners in BB history that I absolutely could not stand, but was able to say they should have won because of the game they played.  Bias does come into play, it is human nature, but to completely dismiss the strategy, smart moves, winning comps, etc., is just a slap in the face to people who respect the game.

Derrick in Season 16 comes to mind. Did;t like him one bit, or anyone in the house, but those idiots made it so easy for him. All Cody had to do to win was bring Victoria but no, he had to stay loyal. Idiot.

Also Steve in season 17, he won by being smart enough to cut Vanessa who really played the best game that season. He brings her along, she wins easy

Those are just to name 2 of them, I'm sure you have more

Yes, Derrick is at the TOP of the list. He made that season so HORRIBLE the way he controlled it and stopped every fire from happening, but he did get very, very lucky at the end with Cody making the bonehead choice.

I have seen some gullible people in the house before, but Rubina keeps moving up the chain with some of the MOST gullible. Even Tucker said to Leah and someone else (can't remember who, but I remember him sharing this twice), that she tends to believe people too easily.

When Brooklyn took her aside to explain her vote she had Rubina believing that the vote ALL week was to keep her no matter what, but T'kor and Kimo came to her and Chelsie to flip the vote the other way because they didn't have the votes. Her and Chelsie were not happy about it, but they couldn't do anything. They checked with T'kor and Kimo daily, but they would not budge. Then on eviction night they changed their minds and voted with others, but left Brooklyn and Chelsie out of the decision to make them look bad. Then Chelsie joined them and the snow job went on about how they could have talked about it all week, etc.

She talked to Tucker after that and asked him why he thinks T'kor and Kimo wanted to flip the vote like that and almost have her leave because of it! He told her that Brooklyn was lying through her teeth and it DID NOT HAPPEN. She then said she didn't think so, but still seemed to wonder.

I'm betting that she is now JUST fine with Quinn because he told her this information, but they already knew it! And after hearing all this information, she will still want to trust Brooklyn and Chelsie because they are her friends and such. Tucker better watch this one for sure.

This is the most coherent thought Rubina has had since the game started

The funny thing is that she is aware of it, but continues to let it happen to her. She has got to be the most gullible person I have ever seen in the game. She is one of those people who believes the last person she spoke with. She checks with T'kor about how she "should" be feeling or thinking on just about everything, like she can't disappoint her or whatever. She keeps saying she is there to play the game for herself, but she sure seems to want to please anyone she talks to.

MJ is correct she actually is being honest, almost to a fault, which is her downfall. She doesn't seem to know when to talk and when not to talk. Bless her heart, she really doesn't know the game, but I think she could be a real asset if anyone would take the time to educate her on the game.

This girl is all over the map. She tells people she is an independent woman and not planning to stick with Tucker throughout the game. She is willing to take him out when the time is right and her "friends" are telling her that Tucker would respect the game move. Then she was talking and agreeing to switching up the alliances and basically going with all girls except Kimo (right up T'kor's alley. Then 10 minutes later she tells T'kor and Kimo that Tucker is "her person" and she would be willing to move to New York to be with him.

How can all of this be true at the same time? I don't recall them having a conversation between the 2 of them that they would not be keeping each other to the end or having any understanding like that, and I think he would be pretty hurt to hear the things she has been saying. Of course she could obviously just be saying this to T'kor and Kimo to stay close with them, but she actually helps plan these things in detail as well.

I know it is an individual game, but how will she feel if she is instrumental in taking him out of the game (the one who carried them all without asking much from them) and then she is also evicted? Would T'kor or Kimo keep her over each other? Of course not!

She's not smart enough to only be telling that to T'kor and Kimo as a game move. She's very wishy-washy and has no business being in this game. I've said it before and will say it again, as soon as she talked about being vocal and sassy in her introductory montage, I knew she'd be a flop

ctown28 wrote:

She's not smart enough to only be telling that to T'kor and Kimo as a game move.  She's very wishy-washy and has no business being in this game.  I've said it before and will say it again, as soon as she talked about being vocal and sassy in her introductory montage, I knew she'd be a flop

That's true, she needs to have someone talking strategy to mirror it back because she doesn't think of anything on her own. And I think T'kor and Kimo know they have a fish on the line to reel in anytime they want.

Rubina apparently said to Tucker this morning "Angela would be dumb to think you have her back when we are so close."

Funny thing is that this is EXACTLY what she is telling Kimo and Tkor to believe, that she will ALWAYS choose them over Tucker, but will she?

Rubina gains more confidence every day that she will make it to the end with the "good people" especially Tkor and Kim. The more confident she becomes in that and the more she believes Tucker's feelings are real (now that Tkor gave her permission to explore that relationship openly), the more confident she feels.

The problem with her gaining more confidence is that annoying fucking laugh and loud voice of hers! Not everything is that damn funny, but apparently if there is any humor in it whatsoever, she thinks it is falling on the floor funny. When people are talking, she finishes their sentences for them so it looks like she is engaged, but never really adds to the conversation, just mirrors what others say to her.

If it isn't clear, she is annoying the HELL out of me and she can go at any time now!

For me she could have gone weeks ago. She does absolutely nothing. How funny is it that she needs T'kors permission to pursue a relationship with Tucker. I really want to see a situation where she has to decide between the two of them. The look of panic on her face will be priceless

Yes, I would like to see her make that choice too, but I have a feeling if Tucker doesn't go home this week, when he does leave she will be sitting next to him on the block.

Ctown, I have to apologize to you! I did not even notice you changed your picture from Maggie to Vinnie! That picture is SOOOO cute. As much as I love my Sammy, I can't believe I didn't notice. Please apologize to Vinnie and give him an extra treat for me!

chap5788 wrote:

Ctown, I have to apologize to you!  I did not even notice you changed your picture from Maggie to Vinnie!  That picture is SOOOO cute.  As much as I love my Sammy, I can't believe I didn't notice.  Please apologize to Vinnie and give him an extra treat for me!

See? Now I have this huge dilemma! I can sit here and make you feel guilty about the whole thing and tell you all kinds of bullshit or I can tell you that until about 5 hours ago the pic was Maggie and I just changed it to Vinnie this morning! Such tough choices!

ctown28 wrote:

chap5788 wrote:

Ctown, I have to apologize to you!  I did not even notice you changed your picture from Maggie to Vinnie!  That picture is SOOOO cute.  As much as I love my Sammy, I can't believe I didn't notice.  Please apologize to Vinnie and give him an extra treat for me!

See?  Now I have this huge dilemma!  I can sit here and make you feel guilty about the whole thing and tell you all kinds of bullshit or I can tell you that until about 5 hours ago the pic was Maggie and I just changed it to Vinnie this morning!  Such tough choices!  

It really never occurred to me that when you changed the picture, it would change all of them on the site! DUH

I just started looking at the threads this morning and saw that cute picture and wondered if I had really lost it (IF I ever had it, that is)! I feel better now because our doggies make the world go round for sure.

Not a day goes by that this dog hasn't made me smile at least once. Usually much more than that. And when he gets into something, I can never stay mad at him longer than a couple minutes!