Chelsie

Looks like Chelsie is getting annoyed with Tucker constantly winning and thinks the others need to step up but she is ready to go against him and is confident she can take him down

I saw that and the I remember that she lost the very first AI thing. Sure anyone could get caught up and not put the plug in the outlet, but even if she didn't do that, her time wasn't that great and if I recall correctly she would have lost anyway.

She likes to run her mouth, and she did win an HOH, but remember she didn't want it and I think she tried to throw it at the end and guessed right. I don't see her being as good as she thinks she is, especially when she talks to Brooklyn and they both say how shitty everyone else does in these comps but Brooklyn lost today, lost to Kenney in a veto and hasn't shown much of anything in any other comp.

Chelsie proves more and more every day that she is the smartest player in the game. She was talking to Quinn and he was sharing what various people were saying and doing. He told her he wanted that group of 7 like before, but thinks now that is too many so he wants a smaller inner circle. Huh, that sounds pretty familiar, doesn't it?

Chelsie said that Tkor is beginning to distance herself from Kimo and Rubina now that her shield is gone and she wants to work with her, but she doesn't know if Tkor would keep information private yet. Her and Tkor have an agreement (supposedly only to jury, but I wonder about that) not to put each other up, but Chelsie is smart enough to say work with her, just don't clue her in on all the plans yet. The only person she really talks freely with is Cam and then tells him who he can and can't talk to about it. Of course she doesn't know that he STILL tells Leah stuff, but at least he doesn't share ALL the details yet.

This business of making a new alliance every week to exclude the people on the block and the redo that every week at some point has to wear out. Quinn even told Kimo that the Visionaries should all have a side person like the cookout did. Tkor can have Chelsie, Kimo can have Rubina and Quinn will have Joe. Then he is going to turn around and put Kimo and Rubina on the block next to each other. How the hell does that make ANY sense at all?

First off, kudos for going and finding this thread that hasn't had a post since 8/10 instead of just starting a new one! I wouldn't have looked past the first page. So cheers to you!

I think Chelsie has figure out a lot of how to deal with people in the house. Cam is obviously the only one she will take serious, but she will humor and listen to everyone else, agree with them, then move on. If what they tell her has merit, then she will act on it.

The best thing for her to do right now is to just sit back and let things settle down. Tucker was on to her and his rants are still fresh in peoples minds so if she makes waves, then that naturally rocks the boat.

I believe she stopped doing those rants because she had been overheard and some people were taking even the jokes in the wrong way when she did it with other people.

You are right she just kind of humors several people and sometimes it is hard to see where her heart really is unless you really pay attention to her conversations. She engages much more with people she WANTS to play with but others haven't figured that out. I think she was the one who really gave MJ the confidence to go out there and win that AI arena and kept telling her not to let ANYONE in that house take away from who she is and how much she belongs in there. This is why I have been wishing she would recognize MJ and take her under her wing and school her on the game, but even for a week it really helped. Now Quinn has recognized that MJ could be that wounded duck that he saves and she will stay loyal to him, but I hope that she is smart enough to see through him before he screws her over.

I really want to cheer more for Chelsie, but the comments about race bother me. She is not as out there with it as Tkor is, but she might just be smarter about it. I think she would allow that to affect her judgement as far as who to target or not target in the game and I am just tired of that being a "thing" in the past few seasons. Just play the damn game, take players for who they are not for their gender or race.

Regardless of my personal feelings on that subject, I do still believe she is playing the best game, has the best strategy and knows how to execute a plan. I think the best thing that ever happened to her was Brooklyn leaving the game to be honest.

After Chelsie put Quinn on the block and did some camera talk about ending her HOH week with 2 males on the block with all these female and feeling satisfied with herself for the most part, she started "gardening" again for the coming weeks.

She was talking to Rubina about the fact that they will now only have 2 guys left in the game and they don't seem to be freaking out about it or anything. They both said they hate to see Quinn go, but he made his bed by flipping on people all the time. Then Chelsie said she "loves Kimo" and wants to take him as far as possible, but things happen. She then said she definitely wants Angela and Leah to be evicted soon, but having all girls at the end would be cool too. Then she asked Rubina how she would feel if it time comes for Kimo to go before they get to the end. I don't know what the response was, but most of the time Chelsie is not really looking for an answer, just judging the response.

I also noticed in her camera talk that she kept saying she really doesn't want Quinn to go, so I wonder if she is having some "buyer's remorse" but when MJ kind of had some regrets too, she told her all the reasons why they made the RIGHT decision. That being said, it only takes a few thoughts here and there and the right information being given to the right person and this group will 100% flip it. It would be dangerous to do that at this point, but I just keep thinking they might entertain it for some reason.

The catalysts for this will be for Quinn to recognize Leah is his BIGGEST problem and maybe talking to Cam about the lack of males in the house and commiserate about the affects of Leah. Put this in the same basket as Kimo USING his story of coming out gay being like MJ's brother on both MJ AND Chelsie and them being a threesome and I could honestly see it.

I don't think of them can be trusted to be honest, so both need to go. However, I think Quinn knows the game a bit better and has been the casualty of sloppy play and decisions, whereas there is NOTHING that would take Kimo away from Tkor and Rubina.