Chelsie veto

Veto players are Chelsie (HOH), Angela (Nom), Kimo (Nom), Rubina, Makensy, and Quinn.

Cam is hosting

Hg's are thinking (as we do) this will be OTEV. The yard has been closed since early in the week. Not sure if AI arena was out in the yard or not, but it wasn't that big of a deal as far as set up, so they have had plenty of time to set that up. I still think there is a chance for the bowlerina comp which is a funny one. I also thought about the one where you have to catch balls (the first comp Kaycee won on her season) with other things being flung around or water or whatever. Cam would be PISSED if he missed that one!

MJ won veto. It was OTEV and she won it in the first round as she was the only one yo bring back the right card. So now how is production gonna fill time Wednesday with it being just one round. I'm sure they're pissed.

She's contemplating using veto on Kimo and trying to get Quinn as the replacement so Angela goes home against Quinn.

Now here is why I think it's very important to break up Kimo/11T'kor/Rubina now. I know Chelsie is worried that the double will be this week, but that's even more reason to break them up now. Why let them remain 3 strong for the double, you need to start dwindling them down.

I know it's been mentioned that Chelsie may have a hard time puttingT'kor up because of the whole POC thing, but I think Chelsie feels stronger about the $750k then she does about telling a story, as well she should

MJ won!!!!

In one round, that is crazy. Never saw that before and never thought I would EVER see it.

This is her chance to make a game for herself. She was talking to Chelsie in the HOH room and they were both saying they are now going to be targets because of the number of comps they have won. Chelsie told her she wants MJ to do what is best for HER game and she would deal with her end. But MJ said this was a decision they have to make together. They can leave it alone and send Angela or Kimo home. Or take someone off and put up Quinn to send him home both of them are thinking that Quinn and Leah will try to pull in Cam for a trio. MJ said it's hard to decide because she REALLY wants Angela out and has for a very long time, but they have to do what is best for THEIR games together. The plan now is for Chelsie as HOH to have one-on-ones with people "in case" she has to name a replacement and MJ will have one-on-ones like Leah did about using it or not. Then they will meet afterward to compare notes.

Thankfully MJ told Chelsie that she wants her help with things to ask people and what information is most important. I do worry about this aspect of it because she does tend to talk a bit much. She also asked Chelsie if they should solidify something with anyone and Chelsie said to wait until after veto is done, but both agree to trying to do something before eviction to have something in place to protect them.

Oh, and MJ mentioned at first taking Kimo down so then maybe he would protect them, but Chelsie came right back saying Kimo wouldn't protect them from anything! I really hope MJ doesn't screw this up, especially by talking to Leah.

ctown28 wrote:

https://twitter.com/BBFeedsFairy/status/1832558842766676433

Now here is why I think it's very important to break up Kimo/11T'kor/Rubina now.  I know Chelsie is worried that the double will be this week, but that's even more reason to break them up now.  Why let them remain 3 strong for the double, you need to start dwindling them down.

I know it's been mentioned that Chelsie may have a hard time puttingT'kor up because of the whole POC thing, but I think Chelsie feels stronger about the $750k then she does about telling a story, as well she should

I don't think Chelsie will ever actually put up Tkor, but she will vote her out. Initially I think she saw this as her having a trio behind her, but has been rethinking that a little bit.

Cam, Chelsie and MJ talked a few minutes ago and Cam brought up the fact that they need to take out Kimo now to break of the block of 3 votes more than because they are threats to putting them up. So, it looks like they are leaning toward not using veto and just making sure they have the votes to send Kimo out. This does put Chelsie in a bit of a spot because she enlisted Tkor to make Kimo okay with going on the block by saying they for sure have 3 votes and she would break the tie to save him. But, just like Tkor thought Tucker was okay and said she couldn't control it, Chelsie could do the same.

Cam also pointed out to the girls that Kimo will 100% put him up if he wins and he would probably go home. Chelsie and MJ both said they want to protect the 3 of them so that is important.

I really like this particular threesome, but not sure that Chelsie can stand seeing Cam and MJ together (still just friends I believe) to keep playing together. She should have a conversation with MJ about it instead of Cam in the sense that it puts a target on the 2 of them and maybe confess she "likes" Cam during that conversation. I think MJ would tame it down a bit and probably tell her she had no idea (she actually doesn't) and make it clear to Chelsie that she will prioritize her over Cam any time.

I agree that it's good on MJ's part that she is asking Chelsie for advice. I really do want to see the two of them put this whole Cam thing to rest. I also agree there is no spark there as far as MJ is concerned, she is just a touchy feely person as has been mentioned earlier this season.

Now what MJ needs to decide is why does she want Angela to go? If it's simply because she's annoying, that's a bad reason. They have an opportunity here and if Chelsie does not want to be the one to put up T'kor, then put up Rubina, this guarantees one of the three go home. Don't leave it to the votes. Especially when if they stay the same, Kimo has 3 automatic votes to stay in Quinn, Rubina and T'kor, which means you need Leah, MJ and Cam all voting your way with Chelsie as the tiebreaker and we know she doesn't want more blood on her hands

ctown28 wrote:

I agree that it's good on MJ's part that she is asking Chelsie for advice.  I really do want to see the two of them put this whole Cam thing to rest.  I also agree there is no spark there as far as MJ is concerned, she is just a touchy feely person as has been mentioned earlier this season.

Now what MJ needs to decide is why does she want Angela to go?  If it's simply because she's annoying, that's a bad reason.  They have an opportunity here and if Chelsie does not want to be the one to put up T'kor, then put up Rubina, this guarantees one of the three go home.  Don't leave it to the votes.  Especially when if they stay the same, Kimo has 3 automatic votes to stay in Quinn, Rubina and T'kor, which means you need Leah, MJ and Cam all voting your way with Chelsie as the tiebreaker and we know she doesn't want more blood on her hands

She admitted to Cam and Chelsie that she wants Angela out for personal reasons and that is why she wants to talk to the 2 of them to decide what is best. The 3 of them decided Kimo would be best because it breaks up the threesome and Cam is convinced Kimo would put him up and MIGHT put either Chelsie or MJ next to him. Chelsie agreed, but said they have to make sure they have all the votes because she doesn't want to have to break a tie cuz it is bad for her own personal game.

They have MJ, Cam and Leah. Leah can get Quinn to do just about ANYTHING and it is better for her to keep Angela. Tkor and Kimo came to get Quinn to talk to earlier and basically threw Rubina out of the group so it would be only the three of them to talk. It was kind of joking but then Tkor gave her "the look" and she left. All of the sudden Kimo and Tkor think it is a good idea for the 3 of them to "continue to work together" to the end of the game. Then jumped right into how he sees the votes. Then Kimo asked what MJ will do with the veto. Quinn looked at them and said he didn't know with a look on his face like why are you asking me that stupid question?

Later in the evening Tkor tells Kimo to go talk to MJ and ask her about using it because she might consider it since she voted to keep him, etc. This is actually funny because MJ just told Cam and Chelsie that Kimo said last week he wanted to work with her, he thinks she had a rough start so they didn't get to know each other well and all that. Then after the eviction when she was one of the pivotal votes to keep him, he barely said a word to her. Now she has a veto and he is going right to her again.

And an interesting side not, I thought MJ might have changed her vote last minute because of what Kimo said about his family and what he had been through and also said something about a brother. A few weeks ago MJ told a story about her brother coming out and their family not understanding because they are so religious and now she is about all her brother has as far as family. Kimo face something like that and I believe waited until his father died before confirming that he was gay after all because his family is very religious as well. So there was a bond between stories. If you watch the episode when he says that, MJ reacts BIG.

Now before they played HOH Thursday night, Quinn suggested that Kimo start talking to MJ more and getting to know her since she is a big reason he is still there. He told Quinn that he played his "ace" with MJ and it worked. Quinn was confused and he whispered "her brother" and then Quinn remembered. He told Leah this information today and Quinn said that was even uglier and shittier than even HE would be willing to go. I wonder how long it will be before Leah shares that with MJ? If she does, I hope MJ can keep from saying anything to anyone except maybe Chelsie and Cam to vent. But following the eviction, this could be some very important information and reason that they just couldn't keep him in the game knowing that. Then what could Rubina or Tkor either one say about it?

They're gonna completely fuck this up. All the talk for renom has been either Leah or Quinn. They all know about the trio of Kimo, Rubina and T'kor yet refuse to put two of them up together. If they put Quinn up, they need to count on Leah to not evict him, they put Leah up, they need to count on Quinn to not evict her, and you know that T'kor will be in the ear of whoever is voting.

ctown28 wrote:

They're gonna completely fuck this up.  All the talk for renom has been either Leah or Quinn.  They all know about the trio of Kimo, Rubina and T'kor yet refuse to put two of them up together.  If they put Quinn up, they need to count on Leah to not evict him, they put Leah up, they need to count on Quinn to not evict her, and you know that T'kor will be in the ear of whoever is voting.

I thought they were crazy as well, but I listened to Chelsie and MJ reason this thing out together. They feel that Quinn is a better player in the sense of the game itself and the upcoming comps, etc. They also think he would pull off slip n slide (I don't see him beating Cam and MJ, but I guess it is feasible).

Leah has been throwing shit out to the rest of the house about MJ, Chelsie and Cam, not together but separate things. Like saying "wow MJ and Chelsie have won more than anyone else in the house..................any athletic comps and nobody has a chance except Cam and MJ...........Chelsie is good with everyone in the house..........etc. Cam said Leah knows just what buttons to push for certain people and that makes her dangerous.

The 3 of them see the threesome with Tkor, Rubina and Kimo, but they don't see Rubina and Kimo winning much in the comps that are coming up and Tkor is only going to be good at the mental comps. So, they see the threesome as less of a threat than Quinn and Leah together.

If MJ and Chelsie save Kimo by putting up Kimo or Leah either one, they would be less likely to put the 2 of them up together and will go after the one left from Quinn/Leah and then someone else. Cam wants Leah gone more, but said as long as one of them leave he doesn't care. He agrees with the threat level being higher with Quinn/Leah. Yes the other is a voting block, but if 2 of them are on the block, there is very little they can do.

Now they are trying to figure out whether or not to take Angela or Kimo down. MJ didn't want to take Angela down, but she also doesn't want to let Kimo off the hook because then they could go ahead and keep Quinn instead and pull them into their group of 3. And if they go that way she is going to sell it that she is prioritizing the girls, so Tkor can keep Kimo quiet about it as well.

They have some points, but unless everyone in this group of 3 are willing to put up Tkor next to Kimo or Rubina, it will be a HUGE mistake.

So veto has been used on Angela, Quinn is up and knows he's in trouble as Kimo automatically has 3 votes to stay in Rubina, T'kor and Angela. So not only does he need to get MJ and CAM, he also needs Chelsie, who just put him up. He's doomed.

Then there's this:



That right there would be enough for me to evict him with I told you so bullshit. He doesn't want to own any part of last week because he told her who the renom would be. It's bullshit. Put up T'kor as the replacement last week and Kimo is already gone and you aren't sitting next to him.

ctown28 wrote:

So veto has been used on Angela, Quinn is up and knows he's in trouble as Kimo automatically has 3 votes to stay in Rubina, T'kor and Angela.  So not only does he need to get MJ and CAM, he also needs Chelsie, who just put him up.  He's doomed.

Then there's this:

https://twitter.com/BBLiveUpdaters/status/1833226603997880570

That right there would be enough for me to evict him with I told you so bullshit.  He doesn't want to own any part of last week because he told her who the renom would be.  It's bullshit.  Put up T'kor as the replacement last week and Kimo is already gone and you aren't sitting next to him.

No he wouldn't be next to Kimo, he would be sitting next to Joseph or Leah and going home anyway. And there is no reason why he can't tell Leah he told her so when she says she should have seen it coming. He DID tell her that it would screw up BOTH of their games and it did. Now she has nobody in the game to manipulate and I don't see her winning too much, so she is in trouble as well.

There is 1 way that Quinn MIGHT have a chance. If he were to tell Chelsie about the Visionaries alliance (this shows that Tkor and Kimo are just as flip-floppy as Quinn). This would also explain why he "outed" the alliance to his final 3 people and why they continue to play with him regardless of what happens.

Then he needs to talk to MJ and Chelsie and tell them that Kimo's speech was meant to use MJ's brother's experience against her and he has bragged about it being his Ace against her. This will piss MJ off for sure, and I think Chelsie would think it is sleazy as well. I think even Cam would see that as a changing element and decide to break up the trio.

He may still get evicted, but at least he will also get some truth out there about the "holier than thou" trio so people quit seeing them as untouchable all the time.